Teleconference Information
Date: 2005-06-06
Time: 1:00 PM
Agenda
Date: Monday June 6 2005 Time: 1:00 - 2:00 CST (Chicago Local Time) Phone: 217 265-6999 Suggested topics: 1. Update on Freedom Scientific answer regarding tabbing issue 2. Jeff's guidelines regarding WebCt online help 3. Categorization of accessibility problems; I will be sending the report later today. 4. Report about using Discussion module on new WebCT demo server Thanks, Hadi
Minutes
Present: David Schwarte, Purdue Robert Dumas, WebCT Phil Kragnes, Minnesota Hadi Bargi Rangin, Illinois at Urbana/Champagin Jon Gunderson, Illinois at Urbana/Champagin Kim Wilson, Minnesota 1. Report on JAWS link navigation problem RD: So FS is aware of the problem and WebCT are following up with them HR: What about Windows Eye? PK: Not a problem HR: Home Page Reader? JG: Not sure 2. Jeff's guidelines regarding WebCT online help RD: He wrote his help with a laymans point of view. He wrote it more from the instructors point of view and terminology. KW: I liked the lack of Section 508 approach, and focusing more on user needs HR: How should we proceed? PK: I think we should take an instrcutor approach, and include coding examples. The examples can be used by more programmers if they want the technical details RD: I corresponded to him off the list, about out technical communiction groups It seems the help files are so dry and technical, I have been encouraging them to work with our tutorial/orkshop people. The workshop people have more contact with end users and their questions. HR: I wish he was on-line and talk about his ideas PK: When I set the standards here I took section 508 and W3C and converted them into terms that developers here can use. RD: That would be great. I would like to show it to our technical documentation people. PK: Here is a link to our accessibility documents: http://cap.umn.edu/ait 3. Categorization of accessibility problems; RD: Most of the list is already in the cue to get fixed. RD: Data tables, using TH. PK: The use of the ID and HEADERS attribute JK: Scope doesn't add alot of information DS: SOme tables have more of a problem than others RD: It is part of our design guidelines, RD: The use of scripts to manipulate font size DS: There are some spots in web pages and there are some hard coded font sizes. So it was difficutly with IE not being able to change font sizes RD: You need to use ignore font size accessibility feature RD: We are trying to address this in future releases HR: Modularization and consistency of navigation RD: Creating different types of learning objects, and there are two separate parts of code KW: I am using 3.0, if you are in the build tab and there is a go button. If you go to teach there is the drop down, but no go button. RD: This is one of those weird user modeling issues. All interfaces all had the "go" button. Many users gave a very negative response. Since you can turn on the menu, you don't have to have the go button. Management decided that KW: Doesn't that add a frame. RD: There are something I get back from ATRC that is confusing. KW: Did they test with blindness? RD: No. They test the previous version and the problems are resolved in the next version. They give us pure violations and then other advisory information. I always assumed they did use all types of disability. I have considered using other sources of testing. We have been with them 4 years. HR: I would like to go back to my question on consistency HR: In one of my previous jobs, we have to document the funcitonalities and then send into the software development team. Hwn I use the software I am really confused. I ame not sure what I am eding. There are so many inconsistencies. COuld you tell me about the discussion module? RD: Yes HR: They are in charge of e-mail? RD: I am not sure HR: I cannot say if a problem ispart of which module, some modules have headings, others do not. Can there be guidelines about the titling the modules, in terms of heading. RD: I think thta was one of our earliest discussions. I have gone to all the create pages should have headers, this is in our cue of things to do. HR: The module for up loading a file us the same throughout? RD: I assume so, but I anm not sure. HR: It is hard for me to identify what part of the module this problem should be referred to. RD: I know that headers are not correctly implemented. KW: How much of this stuff can be inlcuded in fixes? RD: I depends on the amount of work. I try to get them into service packs or hot fixes. I need to go to development to find aout about how much work. KW: It would be useful to me which problems will be available through hot patches.. RD: Most you will need to wait until the next major release. HR: The discussion list on the demo server, if you click on accessibility issues there is alot of repeating titles. PK: It might be a line of text and certain buttons that act on that line of text. HR: It might be that problems, DS: The use of fieldset element might help to identify a group of controls. KW: The icons are very tiny and the ALT text cannot be viewed in Netscape RD: The graphical only controls have been removed. HR: I will discuss this issue with you off line. RD: I think it is a pull down menu issue. HR: we also work with other companies, they ask us for smaple code. If we came up with some sample code, would that be useful to WebCT. JG: We could come up with some sample code. HR: Are there any other issues? RD: Dynamic menus? JG: Please send dynamic menu information to the list HR: Opening new content in a new window, what do people prefer? PK: Separate windows allows for comparison of different windows KW: Can you can open more than one at a time PK: Is this something that should be coded into windows, or should users use browser functions to open links into new windows RD: I am trying to cutout new windows opening automatically HR: When you spawn a new window and it takes to long to open and your session expires. KW: We always tell people to edit text off line and then cut and past it into WebCT HR: What about responding to an e-mail. When your are working on a separate window, the session shouldn't time out. RD: When there are several WebCT windows open, who does webCT know when a session or a window timed out. RD: I would like to attach something to make it clear that this link will open a new window. Next meeting July 11th at 1:00pm again. Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
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