Teleconference Details
Date: 2007-03-15
Time: 1:00 PM CDT
Agenda
Minutes
WebMail Teleconference 03/15/2007
by: Jon GundersonNext Meeting
- Date: March 22 2007; this teleconference has been canceled later.
- time: 2:00 PM EDT; 1:00 PM CDT; 12:00 PM MDT; 11:00 AM PDT
- Phone: 217 265-9888
- Scribe: TBD
Attendees
- Hadi Rangin
- Jon Gunderson
- Carl Brasic
- Julio Chavarria
Regrets
- Srinivas Annam
- Don Evans
- Matt Anderson
Discussion/question
Comments from Julio
Toggle Column/Row navigation
HR: Julio suggests escape key, I have no objections
CB: What are these modes
HR: Explanation of row and column row
CB: The example provides left and right and up and down rows
HR: Carl will working on grid implementation
JB: Why was shift space dropped?
JG: Control+Space selects a message
HR: We are discussing that we don't need it
HR: Navigating to specific row and pressing space bar
JG: Control may have come from control right link
HR: Do we need that?
JC and CB: The use of SPACE is easier
HR: Resolved for SPACE to select a row
CB: Its like you are getting out or row navigation mode
JC: You can get out or row mode
HR: What about screen reader behavior?
HR: I don't think it will interfere with screen reader
JC: Would the keystroke be problematic with other AT
HR: Other AT has dedicated keys
JG: Escape key is mapped to the cancel button in windows
HR: We can recycle shift+space for toggle row
JC: You mean control+space?
HR: Shift+space and control+space were redundant
HR: Shift+space should be used to toggle between row and column
CB: Should it be a toggle?
HR: Shift+space should be used to switch to row navigation mode
HR: If it is a toggle, if we had a toggle key would it take you to last column selected
CB: If you can do it with the keyboard you should be able to do it with the mouse
JG: Double click could be used to select the row
HR: What is the technique for mouse mode
JG: We need to select content for copy and paste
HR: Toggle is the current recommendation of the shift+space
HR: Space will be used for selecting a row
all: Toggle is the way it should work
Left and Right Arrow Keys
JC: Don suggestion requires one less keystroke
HR: Right
JC: People go to column or row navigation it should stop at the beginning or the end of the row aor column
all: yes
Column Navigation Mode and Selecting
HR: People should stay in column navigation mode and select a row (space), you should stay in column navigation mode
JC: Focus stays in the last cell or row selected
all: yes
JC: Left Arrow moves to last column and moves people into column mode
Selecting Rows
HR: Shift+Up and Shift+Down arrow keys select multiple rows
CB: In windows the current row is also selected
CB: Windows does not distinguish between selection and focus
JG: I don;t think that is true
JC: This of excel rows
JC: Shift and arrow keys
HR: What about column mode?
HR: We should be able to select the content of the columns with shift Arrows
JC: What about vertically?
JC: We need clarification, are we talking about row selection or content selection?
JC: Basically content selection and row selection should be the same
all: yes
Views
HR: We have three views, page view with display size
HR: There is another option for a scrollable view
Discussion List
- Please contact Hadi Bargi Rangin (e-mail: hadi@uiuc.edu) to be added to or deleted from the discussion list
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